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	<title>Comments on: The Gogarty Affair: &#8216;Old Media&#8217; vs. Web 2.0.</title>
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	<description>eBay Expert, Online Community Specialist, Author and Blogger</description>
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		<title>By: Dan Wilson: UK-Based eBay Expert, Online Community Specialist, Author, Copywriter and Blogger</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dan Wilson: UK-Based eBay Expert, Online Community Specialist, Author, Copywriter and Blogger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Mar 2008 12:02:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] When an organisation is in the midst of an online community storm, as the Guardian was over Max Gogartyâ€™s blog, the only successful outcome that seems to matter is getting out the other side. Rather like the crew of a ship hanging on for dear life, you batten down the hatches, rely on camaraderie and solidarity, stick to your course and wait for it to pass. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] When an organisation is in the midst of an online community storm, as the Guardian was over Max Gogartyâ€™s blog, the only successful outcome that seems to matter is getting out the other side. Rather like the crew of a ship hanging on for dear life, you batten down the hatches, rely on camaraderie and solidarity, stick to your course and wait for it to pass. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Dan Wilson</title>
		<link>http://www.wilsondan.co.uk/2008/02/18/the-gogarty-affair-%e2%80%98old-media%e2%80%99-vs-web-20/comment-page-1/#comment-10775</link>
		<dc:creator>Dan Wilson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Mar 2008 11:33:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wallace,

These comments are becoming increasingly bewildering to anyone who wasn&#039;t in my living room last sunday afternoon. ;o)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wallace,</p>
<p>These comments are becoming increasingly bewildering to anyone who wasn&#8217;t in my living room last sunday afternoon. ;o)</p>
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		<title>By: Wallace Simpson</title>
		<link>http://www.wilsondan.co.uk/2008/02/18/the-gogarty-affair-%e2%80%98old-media%e2%80%99-vs-web-20/comment-page-1/#comment-10765</link>
		<dc:creator>Wallace Simpson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Mar 2008 23:17:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No no, not Mrs. - you&#039;re confusing me with Wallis Simpson I think.

I hear the Titanic sank...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No no, not Mrs. &#8211; you&#8217;re confusing me with Wallis Simpson I think.</p>
<p>I hear the Titanic sank&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Dan Wilson</title>
		<link>http://www.wilsondan.co.uk/2008/02/18/the-gogarty-affair-%e2%80%98old-media%e2%80%99-vs-web-20/comment-page-1/#comment-10747</link>
		<dc:creator>Dan Wilson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Mar 2008 01:22:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mrs Simpson.

Thanks.

I await your approval on my next, v up to date post re the Crimea.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mrs Simpson.</p>
<p>Thanks.</p>
<p>I await your approval on my next, v up to date post re the Crimea.</p>
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		<title>By: Wallace Simpson</title>
		<link>http://www.wilsondan.co.uk/2008/02/18/the-gogarty-affair-%e2%80%98old-media%e2%80%99-vs-web-20/comment-page-1/#comment-10746</link>
		<dc:creator>Wallace Simpson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Mar 2008 00:23:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Very well put.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very well put.</p>
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		<title>By: Dan Wilson: UK-Based eBay Expert, Online Community Specialist, Author, Copywriter and Blogger</title>
		<link>http://www.wilsondan.co.uk/2008/02/18/the-gogarty-affair-%e2%80%98old-media%e2%80%99-vs-web-20/comment-page-1/#comment-8759</link>
		<dc:creator>Dan Wilson: UK-Based eBay Expert, Online Community Specialist, Author, Copywriter and Blogger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Mar 2008 19:08:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Dan Wilson eBay Expert, Online Community Specialist, Author and Blogger      &#171; The Gogarty Affair: &#039;Old Mediaâ€™ vs. Web 2.0. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Dan Wilson eBay Expert, Online Community Specialist, Author and Blogger      &laquo; The Gogarty Affair: &#8216;Old Mediaâ€™ vs. Web 2.0. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Barthanh</title>
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		<dc:creator>Barthanh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Feb 2008 18:19:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I used to like the Guardian, but as hysterical as this episode has been, (and painful to those on the other side of the learning curve) the lack of committed response to the crime from the paper itself irks me deeply... A lamb was thrown to the wolves, the wolves predictably ate him alive, those responsible have yet to be taken into account, or even front up to apologize.  Everybody knows who you are, get it over and done with, and the sooner the better... Otherwise this entire situation is truly shocking, depressing and embarrassing!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I used to like the Guardian, but as hysterical as this episode has been, (and painful to those on the other side of the learning curve) the lack of committed response to the crime from the paper itself irks me deeply&#8230; A lamb was thrown to the wolves, the wolves predictably ate him alive, those responsible have yet to be taken into account, or even front up to apologize.  Everybody knows who you are, get it over and done with, and the sooner the better&#8230; Otherwise this entire situation is truly shocking, depressing and embarrassing!</p>
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		<title>By: Laura Oliver</title>
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		<dc:creator>Laura Oliver</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Feb 2008 14:37:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Dan Wilson: I couldn&#039;t agree more. The tactic adopted by the Guardian of rounding on their readers in a bid to calm things down is deplorable and seems to be backfiring.

Anyone who feels strongly about this - we&#039;re running an online poll at Journalism.co.uk on the subject - http://www.journalism.co.uk/journalists/forum/index.php/topic,515.0.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Dan Wilson: I couldn&#8217;t agree more. The tactic adopted by the Guardian of rounding on their readers in a bid to calm things down is deplorable and seems to be backfiring.</p>
<p>Anyone who feels strongly about this &#8211; we&#8217;re running an online poll at Journalism.co.uk on the subject &#8211; <a href="http://www.journalism.co.uk/journalists/forum/index.php/topic,515.0.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.journalism.co.uk/journalists/forum/index.php/topic,515.0.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Dan Wilson</title>
		<link>http://www.wilsondan.co.uk/2008/02/18/the-gogarty-affair-%e2%80%98old-media%e2%80%99-vs-web-20/comment-page-1/#comment-8178</link>
		<dc:creator>Dan Wilson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Feb 2008 13:02:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ourman: I&#039;m (still) astonished by the bile coming from Guardian staff directed at their own community. Why aren&#039;t they dampening the fires rather than stoking them?

As I&#039;ve said before, for me this isn&#039;t about a blogger or questionable commissioning process anymore, it&#039;s about a debacle of community management from a team who ought to (and claim to) be experts and know better.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ourman: I&#8217;m (still) astonished by the bile coming from Guardian staff directed at their own community. Why aren&#8217;t they dampening the fires rather than stoking them?</p>
<p>As I&#8217;ve said before, for me this isn&#8217;t about a blogger or questionable commissioning process anymore, it&#8217;s about a debacle of community management from a team who ought to (and claim to) be experts and know better.</p>
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		<title>By: ourman</title>
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		<dc:creator>ourman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Feb 2008 08:43:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Patronising at best - quite often it is downright abusive.  It metaphorically talks about them to their face. 

There&#039;s another small update in this whole affair - the Guardian&#039;s Fiver email mentioned Gogarty affair too and spoke of its commenters in pretty abusive terms.

Link here:

http://snipurl.com/1zxah</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Patronising at best &#8211; quite often it is downright abusive.  It metaphorically talks about them to their face. </p>
<p>There&#8217;s another small update in this whole affair &#8211; the Guardian&#8217;s Fiver email mentioned Gogarty affair too and spoke of its commenters in pretty abusive terms.</p>
<p>Link here:</p>
<p><a href="http://snipurl.com/1zxah" rel="nofollow">http://snipurl.com/1zxah</a></p>
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