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	<title>Comments on: The Guardian and MPs&#8217; Expenses: Loving the Crowd</title>
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		<title>By: dw</title>
		<link>http://www.wilsondan.co.uk/2009/06/19/the-guardian-and-mps-expenses-loving-the-crowd/comment-page-1/#comment-41399</link>
		<dc:creator>dw</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Jun 2009 14:47:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>http://www.niemanlab.org/2009/06/four-crowdsourcing-lessons-from-the-guardians-spectacular-expenses-scandal-experiment/

Interesting piece looking at the Guardian&#039;s crowdsourcing on MPs expenses a few days in. 

I&#039;m fascinated that so many people in the industry are so full of praise (which I agree with) but in terms of community engagement it&#039;s been a bit of a flop for me. I think it looks a bit different after 400 pages reviewed.

I&#039;ve totally given up because I can&#039;t see any fruits of my labour. The written pieces about what&#039;s been found have been pretty thin and unamusing and it&#039;s slid from the prime spot on the Guardian homepage. My interest has waned, as indeed has the Guardian&#039;s it would seem.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.niemanlab.org/2009/06/four-crowdsourcing-lessons-from-the-guardians-spectacular-expenses-scandal-experiment/" rel="nofollow">http://www.niemanlab.org/2009/06/four-crowdsourcing-lessons-from-the-guardians-spectacular-expenses-scandal-experiment/</a></p>
<p>Interesting piece looking at the Guardian&#8217;s crowdsourcing on MPs expenses a few days in. </p>
<p>I&#8217;m fascinated that so many people in the industry are so full of praise (which I agree with) but in terms of community engagement it&#8217;s been a bit of a flop for me. I think it looks a bit different after 400 pages reviewed.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve totally given up because I can&#8217;t see any fruits of my labour. The written pieces about what&#8217;s been found have been pretty thin and unamusing and it&#8217;s slid from the prime spot on the Guardian homepage. My interest has waned, as indeed has the Guardian&#8217;s it would seem.</p>
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		<title>By: alex schultz</title>
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		<dc:creator>alex schultz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Jun 2009 12:12:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>this is awesome work by the guardian thanks for posting it Dan and hope you are well!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>this is awesome work by the guardian thanks for posting it Dan and hope you are well!</p>
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		<title>By: Simon Willison</title>
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		<dc:creator>Simon Willison</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Jun 2009 14:24:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the excellent feedback - I couldn&#039;t agree more on the date entry issue, I had a bunch of improvements I wanted to add to that but then we went live, the database started straining and I spent the 24 hours simply ensuring it would scale (we&#039;re pretty confident with it now). First thing on Monday I&#039;m going to start addressing the many usability issues with the current site.

We deliberately decided not to include a high score table at the start because we were worried it would encourage people to spam the database with inaccurate votes, but with hindsight I don&#039;t think we needed to be so worried about this. I have &quot;reward the participants more&quot; as a very high priority right now - there might be a score table, but I think I&#039;ve got something better lined up... :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the excellent feedback &#8211; I couldn&#8217;t agree more on the date entry issue, I had a bunch of improvements I wanted to add to that but then we went live, the database started straining and I spent the 24 hours simply ensuring it would scale (we&#8217;re pretty confident with it now). First thing on Monday I&#8217;m going to start addressing the many usability issues with the current site.</p>
<p>We deliberately decided not to include a high score table at the start because we were worried it would encourage people to spam the database with inaccurate votes, but with hindsight I don&#8217;t think we needed to be so worried about this. I have &#8220;reward the participants more&#8221; as a very high priority right now &#8211; there might be a score table, but I think I&#8217;ve got something better lined up&#8230; <img src='http://www.wilsondan.co.uk/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Adrian</title>
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		<dc:creator>Adrian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Jun 2009 13:05:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think you&#039;re spot on, on the league table. Nothing like a bit of fun competition.

Although you can win a Duck Island now: http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2009/jun/19/mps-expenses-win-duck-house</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think you&#8217;re spot on, on the league table. Nothing like a bit of fun competition.</p>
<p>Although you can win a Duck Island now: <a href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2009/jun/19/mps-expenses-win-duck-house" rel="nofollow">http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2009/jun/19/mps-expenses-win-duck-house</a></p>
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